Abortion

[MonkeyKing]

I want to know what people think about abortion, and why you think that way. I don't want any instults or smack talking. I want us to ack like adults.

Personally Im Pro-choice

[Hone]

Whats the difference between pro choice and pro life?

Personally, sucked in to the idiot 16 year old girls who act retarded and get boned up with a kid, suffer the consequences and don't make the mistake again. Abortion takes this away and they will most likely do it again. But then again they might actually learn from it and get a degree or something.

But then again there are the special cases where to people are actually sensible and just sometimes get a broken condom or something, and they need the abortion because they really can't afford a child or want one.

[noobie]

I was 15 when i got pregnant with my first child, Nathan. Was such a shock, as i was being safe. But i couldnt consider abortion, i think its a personal choice though and each person has their reasons.
Being stupid is also part of growing up and we all have to make mistakes to be able to learn from them.
As long as we do, do our best to learn from them :)

[Hone]

Well on another forum the same question was asked and some guy said if he got his girlfriend pregnant he said he would "Kill da *****". I think he was joking or just being a jerk. And Nathan's a cool name :D

[noobie]

Tell that guy to get a life, if he got his gf pregnant....he bloody put the baby there too.
Ty, i have 3 kids, nathan, connor and lucy :D My lil darlins hehe

[Hone]

If connor and lucy were twins and lucy was a guy and his name was dominic then you could call them connor and dominic or for short... CONDOM!

Hahahhaha! Thats what me and some of my mates call these twins at my school :D Just a joke.. they take it well :D

[MonkeyKing]

I was 15 when i got pregnant with my first child, Nathan. Was such a shock, as i was being safe. But i couldnt consider abortion, i think its a personal choice though and each person has their reasons.
Being stupid is also part of growing up and we all have to make mistakes to be able to learn from them.
As long as we do, do our best to learn from them :)

your right noobie after has their reasons but somethings the reason F-up
like the people wow have kid just to get childsupport money or wharefare i seen these things with my own eyes

[noobie]

Yeh, ive also seen that happen before, not good.

[Hone]

Childsupport babies usually end up being dropkicks.

[diesel]

I dont have a problem with abortions. I wuold much rather someone get an abortion then to see the baby grow up in a f***** up world eg abusive parents, unstable home life, drugs, poor etc

The fetus or watever is not a person yet, still got 9 months before it becomes a person. See how i said it? I hate all the people that try and stop abortions because they are killing 'people'.

Was about to go off topic, so everyone go to my thread once uve replied here :P

[+dd. jeffsigs]

I am pro life if you are able to be grown up enough to have sex then you need to be grown up enough to handle the consiquences. If you dont want it dont spread it. Lets not bring up the fact that Sex is for a Married man and a Women not kids LMAO.

[SenorLopez]

I think this is a really tough question and you can't really categorize it into "pro life" and "pro choice".
See, I'm "pro choice" but I'm against abortions. Confused? Let me put it this way: I don't think people should get abortions, but I think they should have the option. Usually, abortions are irresponsible (excluding cases of rape, etc.) and aren't taken seriously. But the option should be available because it's the woman's choice. However, doctors need to make sure it's an informed decision.

[Kennydra]

I am pro life if you are able to be grown up enough to have sex then you need to be grown up enough to handle the consiquences. If you dont want it dont spread it. Lets not bring up the fact that Sex is for a Married man and a Women not kids LMAO.

I agree with you completely. I would never condemn someone because they had an abortion though. It's something I could never even imagine doing and really the only way that I think it should even be considered is in the case of rape. To me if you're not ready for the baby or can't afford the baby you should either a)not have sex or b)consider giving the baby up for adoption. There are a lot of people out there who are dying to have children, but can't.

I knew a girl about 5 years ago who had at least 3 abortions one after another. Now to me that is absolute stupidity b/c clearly she should've realized after the first one to either be more careful or stop having sex altogether.

[+dd. jeffsigs]

I have 2 friends that have had abortions and they are really mess up or hurt to this day 5 -6 years later.... They sorta hurt themselves. I know the males could careless but for the women its not good.

On of those ladies got into drugs to bare the pain of throwing something away that could have been something Special just to not have to deal with Life and her consequences. Now She has two or should I say the State has her two Children becuase she is in and out of jail on child Neglect and drug charges.

The other lady turned to God and recieved forgiveness of it but still bares hurt to this day. And the thoughts of what could have been She has 3 great Boys and is happily Married.

[Etha]

I'm not going to visit this thread much after this post because of my fainting spells but I will say I am Pro-Life to an extent.

I believe that people were put on this earth for a reason and I also believe that murder is wrong. Some people say abortion is not murder but I feel very strongly that is it because a definition of life is the growth of cells which starts the very second of conception...and I'm pretty sure it's hard to remove a zygote the second it is made.

Extreme cases such as possible death or harm to the mother or child is the extent I will go to in saying that abortion is "okay". I believe that if you don't want your child there are plenty of people out there who can't have children and would love to have yours.

But like Farrah said it all is just personal choices and I personally would never get an abortion.

Goodbye =] Feeling lightheaded already........

[MonkeyKing]

when things like this happen you never know how you are going to handle it until it happens to you, you can say one thing until you are put into those shoe. that's the fuuny thing about life you never know what the hell is going to happen next

[goldilox]

this is one of those many questions that people have to agree to disagree on coz there are to many ifs and buts to settle on an answer ?

[MonkeyKing]

this is one of those many questions that people have to agree to disagree on coz there are to many ifs and buts to settle on an answer ?

they is not a really a ture answer

[noobie]

this is one of those many questions that people have to agree to disagree on coz there are to many ifs and buts to settle on an answer ?

they is not a really a ture answer

Yes it is...not everyone feels the need to express their opinion on matters like this. But Kelly was expressing her opinion that people are always gonna disagree on subjects like this, so sometimes it best to agree to disagree.

[MonkeyKing]

ture i just want to know will any of this will come to an end

[bigun]

no, i dont think it will come to an end, lol, cos everybody has different views and beliefs, i dont think that there is a right or wrong answer personally.

[ArmedCivilian]

There is a right or wrong answer when one of the options is forced upon everyone. Which, as far as I know, is happening in places like the United States. Personal beliefs have no place in politics, even though that might sound absurd. People need to start thinking of the much larger masterpiece that is our life, the lives of our ancestors, and the life of the future generations. Not focusing on the very small section that we are only. So, as you can see, I made no state of my opinion one way or the other. I did vote, however. I think that is as far as I can go on this topic.

[lokifeyson]

I'm pro-choice

personally I feel the answers people give to this question is mainly based on their religious beliefs.

you can say that someone could just give it up for adoption instead, but that means that person would have to give birth to the child, which would mean time off of work and what if they couldn't pay for it to begin with. and as far as other people wanting to adopt; there are plenty of children in homes and I highly doubt that they are going to "run out" any time soon.

If someone has sex at the age of 13-16 or in their teens and gets pregnant do you really think that making them have the child is fair punishment? I mean, I doubt that they realized the full consequences of what they were doing. I lost my virginity at the age of 16 and she was 18. I know I couldn't have supported a child at the time, but I wanted to express my love for her or what I thought was love at the time. I wasn't nearly as smart as I thought I was.

What about god's plan or the fact that we each have a purpose?

To that I say look, if the bible is right about god and he has a plan for everyone and I get an abortion then wasn't that all part of the plan?

this is about to get a little off topic....

I don't believe in the bible or god, but if he does exist and wants everyone to get into heaven. (according to the bible he does) Then why don't I believe? Why hasn't he shown me the way? Why would his plan force me to hell? lol, I guess I won't know tell later in life or when I die.....

[Kennydra]

Personally I don't think that someone age 13-16 is ready to be having sex at all! And if they think they are grown up enough to have sex, then they should be able to deal with the consequences that come with it. As far as the adoption goes, I live in Canada where healthcare is free so there would be no paying for it. And I know that there are adoption agencies out there who place parents with pregnant women and a lot of the times they actually pay for all the expenses including time off work, and sometimes even up to groceries for the pregnant woman.

Another reason I don't feel like the whole pro-choice thing is fair is what about the father's choice? I understand it's a woman's body and she has to carry it for 9 (technically 10) months, but it's still 50% of the father's DNA and what if he is willing to take care of the child? I'm a woman myself and I still find this unfair.

Anyways like I said before I don't look down on anyone who has had an abortion b/c I'm sure it was a tough decision for them to make, but I just personally don't agree with it. And I don't think you should be having sex at all until you're ready for the consequences of it. There are plenty of things you can do with someone to "express your love" that don't include intercourse and won't get you pregnant ;) lol. I was a virgin until I met my husband and I think that it was one of the best decisions I ever made, to wait.

[noobie]

Ive noticed a lot of people have mentioned the whole...

"If youre grown up enough to have sex you should be grown up enough to deal with the consequences"

Lets get in the real world here for a minute...

Teenages are young, can be very naive, and stoopid.
Just like i was when i was younger.
Ill freely admit that now, but at the time, being a typical teenager, i thought i knew it all. Admit it, you all felt the same when you were younger lol.

So having sexual intercourse at a young age for me, made me feel grown up. I was very safe with using contraceptives.

Yes i know i wasnt grown up, but as said above, we all think we know it all.

I was in a relationship for a couple of years then found out i was pregnant at the stoopidly young age of 15.
I was petrified, so so frightened... id done everything i was supposed to, with using contraception. Making sure i never ever forgot.

But what happened, happened, and then i had to deal with it the best way i could.

The doctors gave me 3 options...

1...have an abortion
2...give birth and give my baby up for adoption.
3...have my baby

That desision was the hardest desision i have ever had to make in my life.
I had no one to help me make that desision. I was too scared to tell my mum at first. So for a couple of weeks my mind was a complete wreck lol.

Then i finally plucked up the courage to tell my mum....omg it was awful lol
Mum was advising that i had an abortion, she was just looking out for me and wanted the best life possible for me, but i think id already decided deep down that i couldnt go through with an abortion.
Mum told me she would be there for me no matter what i chose to do.

It took some time for us both to get used to the idea that her baby so to speak was expecting a child herself.

I kinda had to grow up overnight as soon as id decided to go ahead with the pregnancy.

What im trying to get at, is that ya can go on n on bout teenagers shud b more responsible, and if theyre old enough to have sex they should be old enough to take on the responsibilities it involves. But for god sake, weve all been there where we all think we know it all. We think we're more grown up than we actually are. So these things happen! Its part of life.

Nobody should be able to make these comments untill theyve been in a similar situation where theyve had to make such a hard desision, either way its a desision thats gona affect you for the rest of your life, no matter which option they decide to go for.

Everybodies situation is completely different, and whats right for one may not be for another. So its awful when people get judged for something they thought was the best option for their life, not anyone elses life. but their own!

Ive gotta add onto the end of this...i am not condoning underage sex whatsoever. Its so much better to wait, but at the end of the day, who am i to advice people. Teenagers will always do what they wanna do at the end of the day, and no amount of advice otherwise will ever change their mind. But be warned...Bringing up children at the age i am at now (27) is hard enough, never mind when i was 15. Its no walk in the park.

[Kangaroo]

now this post is going in circles :? from this point on its kinda re-hash

[Hone]

Personally I don't think that someone age 13-16 is ready to be having sex at all!


Why not? Do you have a reason or beleif to back this up? Can i hear it?

[Trapper]

Personally I don't think that someone age 13-16 is ready to be having sex at all!


Why not? Do you have a reason or beleif to back this up? Can i hear it?
I do. Usually, girls that age are UNFIT to have kids. They aren't ready to be mothers! Sure, there are some girls that can, but I mean seriously, it's too traumatic for girls that age.

[goldilox]

this subject seems to have ended up focusing on young teenage girls having abortions but there are women of all ages having them. i knew a woman who had 3 abortions and at the time you were only allowed 3 then you had to have the child (not sure if things have changed) anyhoo when she fell pregnant for the forth time she was made to have her child. she abandoned her little girl, walked out of hospital and left baby. her own mum ended up bringing her baby up as her own, so they grew up as sisters rather than mum and daughter.her mum decided to bring her grandchild up as her own in the hope that her daughter would one day want her as her own daughter but this never happened. she went on to get pregnant again, and again didn't really want a child but knew she couldn't give her to her mum or have an abortion she did keep this child,another girl, and ended up a good mum to this one. this was a grown woman who was well informed on contraception and still had 3 abortions. people make mistakes, for various reasons but to keep having abortions i could not agree with,i don't understand how someone can keep making the same mistake again and again. but i still would not judge or push my opinion on that person.

[Kennydra]

Personally I don't think that someone age 13-16 is ready to be having sex at all!


Why not? Do you have a reason or beleif to back this up? Can i hear it?
I do. Usually, girls that age are UNFIT to have kids. They aren't ready to be mothers! Sure, there are some girls that can, but I mean seriously, it's too traumatic for girls that age.

Exactly! I thought I kinda made that clear in my post when I said, that they should be able to deal with the consequences and more times than not, they can't! I know that at 13-16 I sure couldn't have financially, emotionally, or mentally supported a child. Noobie you are right about thinking you know it all at that age, but I never once thought that I could be a good mum at 13! And my parents always made me very aware of the fact that I did NOT know it all lol. And you're right it is an extremely difficult decision to make I'm sure, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. Our opinions obviously differ, but I don't think you're wrong I just think that's your opinion. And I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.The important thing is that WE are wonderful mommies to OUR babies, which we are :) .

[Hone]

Personally I don't think that someone age 13-16 is ready to be having sex at all!


Why not? Do you have a reason or beleif to back this up? Can i hear it?
I do. Usually, girls that age are UNFIT to have kids. They aren't ready to be mothers! Sure, there are some girls that can, but I mean seriously, it's too traumatic for girls that age.

Exactly! I thought I kinda made that clear in my post when I said, that they should be able to deal with the consequences and more times than not, they can't! I know that at 13-16 I sure couldn't have financially, emotionally, or mentally supported a child. Noobie you are right about thinking you know it all at that age, but I never once thought that I could be a good mum at 13! And my parents always made me very aware of the fact that I did NOT know it all lol. And you're right it is an extremely difficult decision to make I'm sure, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. Our opinions obviously differ, but I don't think you're wrong I just think that's your opinion. And I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.The important thing is that WE are wonderful mommies to OUR babies, which we are :) .

I didn't say having children, i said having sex.

[Kennydra]

And I said b/c they should be able to deal with the consequences of sex, which is children as well as STD's. It doesn't matter if you use contraceptives, obviously in some cases, look at noobie for example, they just don't work all the time.

[miel]

I was 15 when i got pregnant with my first child, Nathan. Was such a shock, as i was being safe. But i couldnt consider abortion, i think its a personal choice though and each person has their reasons.
Being stupid is also part of growing up and we all have to make mistakes to be able to learn from them.
As long as we do, do our best to learn from them :)

What do you mean on this ma'am? You got pregnant when your bf has.. you know